Mmm, not sure what I think of this comment you've posted 5 times... Are you saying that you're ugly and your work is brilliant? or your work is banal and you're really handsome? Please clarify!
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Well I was wondering the same sort of thing. I still have never put up a pic. I guess.... Hmm I will leave that alone.
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This would explain why my artwork is so bad...

No seriously though, I have deleted the duplicate threads.
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lol, nice theory! Some people tell me I look like Rutger Hauer, who is handsome-ish, but plays a lot of villains. So, I guess, in theory, I'm ugly and handsome. Now I'm really confused about my art!
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I didn't mean to post it five times. I had a problem with loading the page.
I'm not raging about the issue at the moment; it's merely a mild irritation.
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'Interesting' stereotyping.
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I would be very interested to know how many of the 6754 voodoo portfolios have you viewed to come up with this assumption.......

I do realise some of our members have decided not to upload an image ( their perogative) so you cannot make a decision on those.....

But how many did you view???
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Like Georgia said, I'd like to see the data you have accumulted. I am sure there are numbers and charts and of course there are probably different allowances made for cultural perceptions of beauty. People considered beautiful 100 years ago are considered plump and less so by todays standards. So you hypothesis would dictate that those same people would have created better art then but not so good now. And lastly you did not even define your perception of beauty.


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Like Georgia said, I'd like to see the data you have accumulted. I am sure there are numbers and charts and of course there are probably different allowances made for cultural perceptions of beauty. People considered beautiful 100 years ago are considered plump and less so by todays standards. So your hypothesis would dictate that those same people would have created better art then but not so good now. And lastly you did not even define your perception of beauty.


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Also to reiterate some of the things Franklin pointed out........

I was always told...
"beauty is in the eye of the beholder" ...
I dont know who the quote belongs to...but has been going for a long time.

What you define as rubbish... is exquisite to another artist...'each to his own' another quote I dont know where it came from...
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Beauty may be skin deep, but ugly goes clear to the bone.- Redd Foxx
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I think Mr. Gilmore must have tripped over a spit and polish piece of promo from a particularly swank and rather pretentious art gallery, which may have helped him formulate this opinion.

I remember having an abhorance towards Peter Max, in my youth. He just seemed too handsome to have talent. And Leroy Nieman's pilfered Dali moustache really annoyed me. Of course now, I just don't care for their art. lol

It's kind of like celebs who decide to take up painting- Tony Curtis, Farrah Fawcett, Grace Slick, etc. There is obviously going to be a portion of every artist's brain that gets envious towards someone successful in another field, who decides to invade their turf. On a lark.
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I guess we have all seen that particularly beautiful people can often do very well in life, seemingly using their looks alone. The majority of any segment of popular culture be it pop stars, actors, models, tv presenters, all seem to do better if they are deemed attractive by the current status quo. I guess this should apply to artists also.

We have all met young women that batter their eyelids and wear revealing clothes to get ahead in life - I'm not being sexist, just making an observation, and I am sure its true to a lesser extent with men also.

So I can see the logic here - physical attractiveness is an asset, sadly, because I think as evolved beings we should look further than skin deep.

Saying that, it seems to me that as far as image and persona in concerned, playing the stereotypical artist seems to work best. When I think of the famous artists, many have something quirky and odd about them. Van Gogh is remembered for his madness and chopping off his ear in particular, Dali, almost the same, Toulouse La Trek for sleeping with prostitutes and being very short, Damien Hurst for chopping up cows, Tracy Emmen for being drunk, Grayson Perry for cross dressing...The list goes on...I guess as creative people artists are more likely to be different, and to amplify this persona helps define the artist more so.
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"Toulouse La Trek" I know you like Star Trek Harry but thats going a bit far calling poor old Henri La Trek....gave me a giggle anyway

I asume you mean
'Henri Marie Raymond de Toulouse-Lautrec Monfa was born in Albi, Tarn in the Midi-Pyrénées région of France, the firstborn child of Comte Alphonse and Comtesse Adèle de Toulouse-Lautrec. An aristocratic family (descendants of the Counts of Toulouse) that had recently fallen on hard times, the Toulouse-Lautrecs were feeling the effects of the inbreeding of past generations; the Comte and Comtesse themselves were first cousins, and Henri suffered from a number of congenital health conditions attributed to this tradition of inbreeding' Wikipedia
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I must admit I have got to agree with you Joseph on many of your points.. especially this one:- "I think Mr. Gilmore must have tripped over a spit and polish piece of promo from a particularly swank and rather pretentious art gallery, which may have helped him formulate this opinion."

But dont you think artists are performers (As are Actors and Actresses)in our own medium...a lot of famous artists like to peform in public... Turner excelled on varnishing days at the Royal Accademy...

most of modern artists make a point of intergrating with their public as a part of their art....
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My spelling is never good especially for foreign words and names in general, but yeah thats the guy I meant.
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I was only jesting with you Harry...

my spelling is absolutely atrocious...and its getting worse I spell the same words incorrectly every time.... one of them being buaety...which I have to coreect evertime....
hence its a slight fetish I seem to notice everyones little typing errors... and your Trek was so obvious Star Trek it stuck out....

Im going to put it down to there are more brain cells working on my artistic side of the brain...Ha Ha!!
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"Toulouse La Trek" - Harry O'Connor

French for Toulouse the Trip? Boldly going where no artist has gone before...lol

"But dont you think artists are performers (As are Actors and Actresses)in our own medium...a lot of famous artists like to peform in public... Turner excelled on varnishing days at the Royal Accademy... " - Georgia Hurst

Very true. I used to know an artist back in New Orleans who insisted on wearing a beret in public. It was part of his schtick. ArtBasel in Miami, has more of the appearance of a fashion show, than an art exhibit. Unfortunately, playing the crowd is a necessity of being successful in the art biz(much like any other biz). Sitting in a cave, waiting to be discovered, .....well, that just doesn't happen. As far as promotional pics on resumes, I would suspect most artists will hunt up the most flattering pic they have, rather than a shot of them just waking up.

Oh, Harry, with today's gender bending and kinks, there are almost as many Mimbos(male bimbos) as there are Bimbos. Come to Miami, you can see them first-hand at South Beach.
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Id love to come a visit Miami again.....

is is that an invitation Joseph
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May I just interject here, I have known women who have had to prove their talents and skills over and over just to get past their stumbling block of a pretty face, it can be a curse too. If we could chose what we look like, wouldn't we all select the glamorous, perfect booty option?
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