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Good Looking, bad artwork.

Posted by Andrew Gilmore at 19:06 29.06.2008
38 messages posted
United Kingdom

I've worked out that the better looking someone is and the more glamour they inject into the profile picture the more likely their is to be crap
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Ariane Zuber at 12:43 06.07.2008
27 messages posted
Germany

Well, I don't want to offend anybody but this statement about "good looking and bad artwork" is far too simple and kind of "not necessary", sorry - glad most of the artists here have great sense of humour

By the way for me this statement does not work anyway and I have no sense of humour at all ;)
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Georgia Hurst at 17:39 07.07.2008
1265 messages posted
United Kingdom

As you are watching us Nyanda.....I will be on my best behaviour in future...and watch my 'P's and 'Q's...

as for the agenda Joseph ...I think we have frightened him off...I hope not as he did give us food for comment....EH!!!
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Keri Mills at 06:03 10.07.2008
166 messages posted
United States of America

Quoting Joseph Draye
I hadn't known you were a mod, until I looked at the artist list. Actually, I didn't know others were too(a veritable police state) lol. I may be the only one here who isn't!

As far as the agenda behind this thread, we may never know, as the author has not returned to it, to further enlighten us. :)
Forgive my sleep deprived mind, but what do you mean by "mod"? (I know its prob obvious, what can I say?)
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Antony Burt at 12:10 10.07.2008
437 messages posted
Canada

Quoting Andrew Gilmore
I've worked out that the better looking someone is and the more glamour they inject into the profile picture the more likely their is to be crap
Regarding removal of profile picture: Very interesting move Andrew. By removing your profile picture, do you feel your artwork will be somehow improve? I do hope you're not 'injecting more glamore' into a new profile picture. You know you shouldn't do that. Smile Smile
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Joseph Draye at 15:13 10.07.2008
893 messages posted
United States of America

Quoting Keri Mills
Forgive my sleep deprived mind, but what do you mean by "mod"? (I know its prob obvious, what can I say?)
moderator

Regarding removal of profile picture: Very interesting move Andrew. By removing your profile picture, do you feel your artwork will be somehow improve? I do hope you're not 'injecting more glamore' into a new profile picture. You know you shouldn't do that. Smile Smile- Antony Burt

Why not, I did. A self-portrait of me is way better than any pics I have of myself. I'm the world's greatest plastic surgeon(and cheapest, too). lol


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Nicole Bergström at 19:24 16.09.2008
46 messages posted
Sweden

Hm... is that supposed to serve as a complimant or an insult? "You're pretty but your artwork stinks" or "you're pretty ugly but I love your work!"

I have to say like former repliers that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I think it's pretty pointless walking around bitter because you don't like someones artwork - pretty or not... Waste of time.
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Keith Browning at 20:38 18.09.2008
177 messages posted
United States of America

Well, here we go. I am a rather large fellow. I'm 6' 3" and about 250 pounds, at one time I had really long hair and have always had sort of a rough face. I have been amused by the comments that I have gotten by people when they got to know me. Usually, something along the lines of, "When I first met you, I was afraid of you, it suprised me to find out that you are an artist and a musician. I would have never guessed, etc." So, it's been sort of fun and interesting having these first impressions twisted around. Everyone used to think I looked like a biker or a wrestler when they first met me. They all seemed to be amazed that someone who looked like I did could be creative. I liked the fact that the ones who stayed around to be friends actually dug their way through the facade and got to know the person inside. It seemed to make them more valuable to me. Also, I have very eclectic tastes in everything, music, authors, food, everything. For some reason that always seemed to be a suprise to people as well.
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Joseph Draye at 04:12 19.09.2008
893 messages posted
United States of America

I'm a little smaller than you Keith, and I used to get that too. I've got a rather charming scar down the middle of my nose, which really gives people the impression I'm a bully. Maybe it'll keep the orderlies in line, when I get to the nursing home.
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Nicole Bergström at 07:52 19.09.2008
46 messages posted
Sweden

I'm quite tiny over all, but apparently I look scary as well. Seems as though being tattooed, dressing mostly in black and dying your hair (even if it just happens to be any other 'normal' colour) is enough for people to fear you...
The fun part is that I'm the kind that rather stays in the corner and observes than confronting people - meaning that there's probably not much to fear... Although, I can of course "bite back" if I need to...

First impressions are odd..
My brother told me about a neighbour of his who was this HUGE tattooed guy, who always had a sort of mean expression on his face, making the rest of the building scared shitless of him. Meanwhile he was the friendliest guy you could ever imagine..
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Joseph Draye at 16:08 19.09.2008
893 messages posted
United States of America

The big guys usually are the nicest. They have nothing to prove. It's those little guys you gotta watch like a hawk.
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Nicole Bergström at 16:29 19.09.2008
46 messages posted
Sweden

Hm, no. It's the Weird people that tend to be the nicest - size doesn't matter... It's the "Normal" people you have to watch out for!
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Andrew Gilmore at 20:57 22.09.2008
38 messages posted
United Kingdom

Unfortunately, I'm inclined like everyone else to pre-judge Keith Browning as a biker thug on first sight. That's evolution. I'd quickly flip that to the possibility that he could be a guy who is kind and amiable. That's through experience.
We've learned some bad habits. You see a good looking guy or woman and you assume that they are kind, successful and honest. That's just not true. I did a lot of research into this during my BA.
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Joseph Draye at 00:17 23.09.2008
893 messages posted
United States of America

Quoting Andrew Gilmore
Unfortunately, I'm inclined like everyone else to pre-judge Keith Browning as a biker thug on first sight. That's evolution. I'd quickly flip that to the possibility that he could be a guy who is kind and amiable. That's through experience.
We've learned some bad habits. You see a good looking guy or woman and you assume that they are kind, successful and honest. That's just not true. I did a lot of research into this during my BA.
Alright, I'm befuddled. How do you research what goes on in the human heart, based on outward appearance?

Adolf Hitler was a babe magnet, in his time, and women revolved around him constantly, in public. And he was rather bland looking, for all intents and purposes. Ted Bundy was a rather handsome fellow, who just happened to be one of the most notorious serial killers of all time. Andrei Chikatilo was, by normal standards, scary looking as hell, and is also the most "productive" serial killer of the past 50 years.

3 guys with the same mindset- and completely different looks.


I think the old saying is-

Don't judge a book by it's cover!
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Nicole Bergström at 07:59 23.09.2008
46 messages posted
Sweden

"You see a good looking guy or woman and you assume that they are kind, successful and honest."

No, not me. I automatically assume the opposite... But then again, that comes from experience - most goodlooking people that I've met has turned out to be complete bastards... But then again I guess it's wrong to automatically assume that they're stupid and mean, after all; there's always exceptions.
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Antony Burt at 15:23 23.09.2008
437 messages posted
Canada

Quoting Joseph Draye
Alright, I'm befuddled. How do you research what goes on in the human heart, based on outward appearance?

Adolf Hitler was a babe magnet, in his time, and women revolved around him constantly, in public. And he was rather bland looking, for all intents and purposes. Ted Bundy was a rather handsome fellow, who just happened to be one of the most notorious serial killers of all time. Andrei Chikatilo was, by normal standards, scary looking as hell, and is also the most "productive" serial killer of the past 50 years.

3 guys with the same mindset- and completely different looks.


I think the old saying is-

Don't judge a book by it's cover!
Exactly. Just as how we can not judge artwork by the artists face, we can't correctly judge character by a image of a face.

It also brings into context the nature/nurture idea. While there may be some genetic predisposition to behave in a particular manner, behaviour is also shaped by circumstance and environment.

Just a bunch of bularky. To evaluate a persons personality, you really have to get to know them. You can't do it from pictures, 'sound bytes', and third person reports. People are complex animals.
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Andrew Gilmore at 19:44 23.09.2008
38 messages posted
United Kingdom

You're a better human being than me Joey. I see a guy gruff looking, long hair, motorcycle jacket...
Oh, see your already thinking of a Hell's Angel and I was talking about John Doe who helps out at the Old Folks home and has never ridden a bike in his life.

What I'm saying is through constant stereotyping throughout culture we contract the pre-judgments. It's up to the individual to flip those around. I bet Nicole has flipped it around that a good looking person is all those things I just listed. Examine glossy magazines any day of the week and see those stereotypes being entrenched.

You've missed the point. I know Ted Bundy was a good looking guy. Those women trusted him because of their preconceptions.
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Andrew Gilmore at 19:51 23.09.2008
38 messages posted
United Kingdom


" I bet Nicole has flipped it around that a good looking person AREN"T all those things I just listed and most likely because she's an artist."
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Nicole Bergström at 05:16 24.09.2008
46 messages posted
Sweden

No, it's probably because I'm weird.. That seems to be the general conception anyway...
But I like the artist-idea better so lets go with that instead.
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Samuel Pourasghar at 16:17 05.10.2008
304 messages posted
United Kingdom

In my experience I have found that it is easier to regard artists on how odd they are. Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder after all.

I'm actually much more attractive than any photographic equipment could describe (meaning I always look twatty in photos).

If your acute observation is correct Mr Gilmore, then I reckon I'm either uglier than I thought I was or my art is crapper than I thought it was. *weeps uncontrollably and runs out of the room*
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Nicole Bergström at 08:54 07.10.2008
46 messages posted
Sweden

Haha, "beauty is in the eye of the beerholder".. That made my day, haha.

But you know, the line between a genious and a madman is overlapping. So maybe looks doesn't have anything to do with it as long as you're...well, nuts. right?

Aaaw, don't cry!! -treats Samuel to a cup hot chocolate and some cookies-
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